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	<title>Comments for Jennifer Barry-Lenger</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Comparing Eve: Group #2 by TaAmy</title>
		<link>http://barrylenger.com/journal/comparing-eve-group-2/#comment-2141</link>
		<dc:creator>TaAmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Comparing Eve: Group #2 by mdjzww</title>
		<link>http://barrylenger.com/journal/comparing-eve-group-2/#comment-1992</link>
		<dc:creator>mdjzww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Comparing Eve: Group #3 by mdjzww</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdjzww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 02:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Comparing Eve: Group #3 by mdjzww</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdjzww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Comparing Eve: Group #3 by runescape accounts</title>
		<link>http://barrylenger.com/journal/comparing-eve-group-3/#comment-1477</link>
		<dc:creator>runescape accounts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Comparing Eve: Group #4 by Flavio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flavio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are a beatiful women :)</description>
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		<title>Comment on Comparing Eve: Group #2 by fgbhf</title>
		<link>http://barrylenger.com/journal/comparing-eve-group-2/#comment-978</link>
		<dc:creator>fgbhf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Comparing Eve: Group #1 by Yoon Jeong</title>
		<link>http://barrylenger.com/journal/comparing-eve-group-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoon Jeong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have a question about who "they" are. It seems to me that "they" are women who can be saved by childbearing if they keep in faith and love and holiness with modesty in that female readers seems to be mainly considered in 1 Timothy 2:11-15. In this passage, women's salvation is described, connecting it to childbearing. I cannot find men's salvation here. Childbearing is not just a qualification. Women's salvation is very limited since women have to contitnue in virtue(faith, love, holiness, modesty) as well as childbearing. It is so hard for women to be saved comparing to men. 
The interesting thing is that the author of 1 Timothy uses Eve image represented in Genesis story regarding both women's submission and their limited salvation. In Genesis 3:1-6, Eve is speaking with the serpent and gives the fruit to Adam. And Adam just ate it without any speaking or refutation. Eve is very independent and initiative while Adam is non-speaking and submissive to Eve. Eve's authority is degraded in 1 Timothy 2:11-15. In this text, women should learn in silence with submission because Eve became a transgressor. But in Genesis 3, God did not punish women, speaking, "Shut up." Instead, women's pain in childbearing will be increasedn while Adam also gained pain in work. God does not seem to lower women's authority. But the author challenge women's authority and applies God's response toward Adam and Eve to only Eve's limited salvation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have a question about who &#8220;they&#8221; are. It seems to me that &#8220;they&#8221; are women who can be saved by childbearing if they keep in faith and love and holiness with modesty in that female readers seems to be mainly considered in 1 Timothy 2:11-15. In this passage, women&#8217;s salvation is described, connecting it to childbearing. I cannot find men&#8217;s salvation here. Childbearing is not just a qualification. Women&#8217;s salvation is very limited since women have to contitnue in virtue(faith, love, holiness, modesty) as well as childbearing. It is so hard for women to be saved comparing to men.<br />
The interesting thing is that the author of 1 Timothy uses Eve image represented in Genesis story regarding both women&#8217;s submission and their limited salvation. In Genesis 3:1-6, Eve is speaking with the serpent and gives the fruit to Adam. And Adam just ate it without any speaking or refutation. Eve is very independent and initiative while Adam is non-speaking and submissive to Eve. Eve&#8217;s authority is degraded in 1 Timothy 2:11-15. In this text, women should learn in silence with submission because Eve became a transgressor. But in Genesis 3, God did not punish women, speaking, &#8220;Shut up.&#8221; Instead, women&#8217;s pain in childbearing will be increasedn while Adam also gained pain in work. God does not seem to lower women&#8217;s authority. But the author challenge women&#8217;s authority and applies God&#8217;s response toward Adam and Eve to only Eve&#8217;s limited salvation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comparing Eve: Group #3 by Gene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The connection between obedience and life and disobedience and death is interesting. I find it bizarre considering that it is only through Eve's "disobedience" that life can start. Where the fruit of the tree not eaten, Eve and Adam theoretically would never have left the Garden, and therefore never had Cain and Abel etc. Do we need to transgress in order to live a full life? Is the Garden an illusion and impossible to sustain? True by leaving the Garden we as humanity can die...but are we only able to live by leaving the "perfect" illusion behind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The connection between obedience and life and disobedience and death is interesting. I find it bizarre considering that it is only through Eve&#8217;s &#8220;disobedience&#8221; that life can start. Where the fruit of the tree not eaten, Eve and Adam theoretically would never have left the Garden, and therefore never had Cain and Abel etc. Do we need to transgress in order to live a full life? Is the Garden an illusion and impossible to sustain? True by leaving the Garden we as humanity can die&#8230;but are we only able to live by leaving the &#8220;perfect&#8221; illusion behind?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comparing Eve: Group #4 by Sarah Wastella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Wastella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree that Paul is a "known" woman hater.  Could someone cite a source for that.  Especially since he openly acknowledges women as foundations and leaders in the city churches.

As to the relevance to Mary Magdalene, I would have liked to see some clearly defined link to the topic for our own edification, rather than just the implied connection between two women in the Bible.  It's like studying Esau and assuming Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that Paul is a &#8220;known&#8221; woman hater.  Could someone cite a source for that.  Especially since he openly acknowledges women as foundations and leaders in the city churches.</p>
<p>As to the relevance to Mary Magdalene, I would have liked to see some clearly defined link to the topic for our own edification, rather than just the implied connection between two women in the Bible.  It&#8217;s like studying Esau and assuming Christ.</p>
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